You would think we would know better by now... "you dumb ass..."!

This for me was a fun conversation about a very serious topic, it touches on the current war and therefore I want people to be aware of that before you listen to the podcast.

Lucija Popovska is... and I have said this to her face....  a crazy, energetic, outrageous lady who swears like a trouper and doesnt care what people think. This is a quieter more thoughtful side to her that I hope you like. 

But maybe next time we get wine and you all get to find out about her wild side :)

Lucija spent several decades in international development, focusing on human rights, specifically the right to housing, housing finance and the way it may (or may not) marry microfinance, and the role of technology in it. 

 She has been lucky to have lived for shorter and not so very short periods in 11 countries on 3 continents. Her major achievement in life is that she managed to enjoy all of them.

 Lucija believes she is a good cook (and is sometimes right), loves her wine (always), sails small boats (whenever she can) and enjoys learning languages (everywhere). Sometimes the four interfere. 

 She helps manage a software company. Despite that, the company is doing very well.